Just visual changes so far... I thought the whole purpose was fixing the bugs/coding/internal stuff. The only proof they show is screen shots and visual changes, which isn't even hard to do. Just download a model pack or play CZ.
As you can see from the movie, they pretty much loaded up source, changed the CS background(like you can easily do for CPL gui, CEVO gui, etc). Again, visual changes which have already been done before are being displayed. In the video all I see is model/visual changes which can be done by downloading a model pack.
Hopefully in the next video you can open the tools you're using when programming this and show us how big the changes are, and explain why your chaging it, how it will better balance CS from what we have already. Show some real proof, I could make a video identical to that with no programming needed, its all visual. And the whole point you claim to pro mod is CODING/intenal stuff, so next time make a video on something real.
Also, I love the "www.fraps.com" at the top, real professional. Glad you guys take the time and effort to do a real hard job.
#6 speaks the truth, ftw~ same way i feel.... -and w.tf in dust 2 screen shot theres those lights coming from the ceilings in b tunnels , not the same as cs1.6...
This comment was edited at 04/19/2006 8:51 PM
If you are one in a million, there are at least 100 ppl exactly like you in china.
i hope they add a new weapon in the game :D, with new maps, and hopefully forget about the 1.6 game play and go to the 1.5 gameplay that was definitly the best, the way it flowed and felt flawless was so sick!!!
#12 its not meant to be a direct port of 1.6 buddy, they're improving all aspects of the game, which means taking things from 1.6 as well as source, and adding their own touches in. i think the light coming through in upper b tunnels looks good, its all looking great so far keep it up CSP team :D
#26 i've never been cal banned, what are you talking about(i've never even been disputed in the last season of CAL which I participed, I only played 2 matches) http://www.caleague.com/?page=user&userid.. im sure cal banned?
also [GB]Jame^s said it perfectly:
"I'm probably wrong when I say that it looks like you've taken source and added wall spamming, fixed amient noises, and attempted to port the maps while keeping the wierd source sounds.
If this really takes off I can speak for most all the invite community when I point out that the flashes and nades need to have the same "feel" the same as 1.6 (be the same pixel size so they go through cracks and bounce off walls the same.) I shudder when i hear "make the recoil close to 1.6" That sounds like you cant get it the same?
-nades -recoil -sounds
Remember, 1.6 with new graphics. Not source 1.6 look alike. Please :]"
This isn't going anywhere, you should really listen to the people who WILL be using it. No cal-i players are going to use this, a bunch of no name randoms, using this at a sponsored tournament with huge prize money? Try listening to the future players who will be playing it. Don't start PMSing because you failed, and call people hackers.
Congratulations Kev1n, you participated in two matches of you Counter-Strike open team.
Your opinion is not only backed by an immense amount of experience in mod making, but you have the unbelievable cal open experience behind it to back any claim up.
You're absolutely correct about everything.
Kev1n, the 1 in your name surely dictates you're absolutely #1
This comment was edited at 04/19/2006 11:48 PM
Account was hijacked November until December. Wasn't me posting!
Read what Jame^s said, and other people who attend big tournaments. You're missing the facts they USE and depend on in balanced game play, and changing them. They will not want to participate using your mod, and when teams and players like those don't attend/use it, people won't pay attention to it.
Maybe one day you'll clue in. I'm not trying to BASH you, im simply saying LISTEN to the PEOPLE who will be using it. They are the future of your success. Pro players are telling you they don't like the things you're changing. Hense, if they don't like it, do you honestly think they'll vote and want to play on it? Tournaments depend on these players and teams to be successful, the fans watch their favorite top teams play, and they benefit from the marketing. What tournament will people want to watch with no pro teams using your mod? CLUE in.
i have to agree with #6 for the most part, but i think the whole goal really is to remake 1.6 with better graphics and better registry/coding/w.e. they aren't trying to revolutioninze the game, they're simply trying to make the game better. better graphics means more professionalism and respect to the game at this day in age. better registry/coding/w.e. for the competetive aspect of the game.
im not too familiar on how they do the coding, but yeah, youre right on the part that the video shouldve displayed the tools they used to program and debug CS for the modifaction, and what changes they've made or at least show some visual comparison with 1.6 and csp codes.
but im just going with their word that it is "still in progress" . face it, 1.6 is going to die sooner or later. an attempt to prolong the game and help out eSports, with a risk of failure on the CSP staff's part wouldn't hurt the community. =]
#17 with these looks. its not bad. but thats what csp is abotu the source graphics. but. the 1.6 game play obvisiousely u dont knwo what ur talking about. it looks pretty cool i just hope game play wills simaliure to 1.6 or 1.5 :P
kev1n seriously dude what is your problem. You obvisouly suck at life and have no respect for the hard work that my friends at the CSP team are doing. It's not easy making a mod from the ground up. James has a few valid points but unlike you I have a little bit more knowledge in this project than James does as well as you. I speak with the team everyday and we always have good laughs in their channel as well as exclusive updates as to how the project is coming. You sir are acting like a 12 year old please respect the people that are trying to better our CS community to help further Esports into a more professinal aspect.
You sir are the type of person who brings our community backwards. Please cancel your gotfrag account, delete steam, uninstall windows, throw away your computer, and lock yourself in your basement. You are worthless to life.EXE please uninstall that as well.
No one wants your pestimistic attitude here. I remember the humble beginings of CS and you have no respect for CS what so ever. Please stop posting if all your are going to post about CSP is how much it is going to fail. You know I hope it makes it and I hope it makes it big so that one day we can all say "Remember that Kevin kid?" "Oh man he was such a lamer, I wonder what ever happened to him? I wonder...I wonder...." *flashforward waves* "In other news, Today 12 year old Kevin Nooberson was found dead today in his basement. No foul play is suspected, police say it was suicide. All they found was a note next to his body that read "I own u - Kami Kaze Inc."
Please Kevin go away. No one likes you or cares about.
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As you can see from the movie, they pretty much loaded up source, changed the CS background(like you can easily do for CPL gui, CEVO gui, etc). Again, visual changes which have already been done before are being displayed. In the video all I see is model/visual changes which can be done by downloading a model pack.
Hopefully in the next video you can open the tools you're using when programming this and show us how big the changes are, and explain why your chaging it, how it will better balance CS from what we have already. Show some real proof, I could make a video identical to that with no programming needed, its all visual. And the whole point you claim to pro mod is CODING/intenal stuff, so next time make a video on something real.
Also, I love the "www.fraps.com" at the top, real professional. Glad you guys take the time and effort to do a real hard job.
-and w.tf in dust 2 screen shot theres those lights coming from the ceilings in b tunnels , not the same as cs1.6...
and #6 they changed grenades which isn't just visual
the run speed and movement are different
the recoil is different
easily recognizable from the first moment the game is actually shown
please don't comment on the game if your ignorance is going to be blatent
especially with an attitude like they owe you a favor to be professional as possible and should spend money on the pro version of fraps
jesus christ
have some respect
great post #21
Kev1n, just because you're calbanned doesn't mean you have to be angry all the time.
http://www.caleague.com/?page=user&userid.. im sure cal banned?
also [GB]Jame^s said it perfectly:
"I'm probably wrong when I say that it looks like you've taken source and added wall spamming, fixed amient noises, and attempted to port the maps while keeping the wierd source sounds.
If this really takes off I can speak for most all the invite community when I point out that the flashes and nades need to have the same "feel" the same as 1.6 (be the same pixel size so they go through cracks and bounce off walls the same.) I shudder when i hear "make the recoil close to 1.6" That sounds like you cant get it the same?
-nades
-recoil
-sounds
Remember, 1.6 with new graphics. Not source 1.6 look alike. Please :]"
This isn't going anywhere, you should really listen to the people who WILL be using it. No cal-i players are going to use this, a bunch of no name randoms, using this at a sponsored tournament with huge prize money? Try listening to the future players who will be playing it. Don't start PMSing because you failed, and call people hackers.
yep, makes sense. looks like just some good progress to me.
Domain Name: cspromod.com
Registrar: Spot Domain LLC
Expiration Date: 2006-12-26 14:21:00
Creation Date: 2004-12-26 13:20:49
Sure looks like a few months work.
-Always remember kids: learn about what you are flaming before you flame..
Your opinion is not only backed by an immense amount of experience in mod making, but you have the unbelievable cal open experience behind it to back any claim up.
You're absolutely correct about everything.
Kev1n, the 1 in your name surely dictates you're absolutely #1
Stop avoiding the fact that CSP will fail, and attacking me in other areas, like I said you're far from professional.
Yes, I am not "professional" but I am doing something.
You're a negative bum, throwing this project down because, well you feel like it?
Maybe one day you'll clue in. I'm not trying to BASH you, im simply saying LISTEN to the PEOPLE who will be using it. They are the future of your success. Pro players are telling you they don't like the things you're changing. Hense, if they don't like it, do you honestly think they'll vote and want to play on it? Tournaments depend on these players and teams to be successful, the fans watch their favorite top teams play, and they benefit from the marketing. What tournament will people want to watch with no pro teams using your mod? CLUE in.
im not too familiar on how they do the coding, but yeah, youre right on the part that the video shouldve displayed the tools they used to program and debug CS for the modifaction, and what changes they've made or at least show some visual comparison with 1.6 and csp codes.
but im just going with their word that it is "still in progress" . face it, 1.6 is going to die sooner or later. an attempt to prolong the game and help out eSports, with a risk of failure on the CSP staff's part wouldn't hurt the community. =]
You sir are the type of person who brings our community backwards. Please cancel your gotfrag account, delete steam, uninstall windows, throw away your computer, and lock yourself in your basement. You are worthless to life.EXE please uninstall that as well.
No one wants your pestimistic attitude here. I remember the humble beginings of CS and you have no respect for CS what so ever. Please stop posting if all your are going to post about CSP is how much it is going to fail. You know I hope it makes it and I hope it makes it big so that one day we can all say "Remember that Kevin kid?" "Oh man he was such a lamer, I wonder what ever happened to him? I wonder...I wonder...." *flashforward waves* "In other news, Today 12 year old Kevin Nooberson was found dead today in his basement. No foul play is suspected, police say it was suicide. All they found was a note next to his body that read "I own u - Kami Kaze Inc."
Please Kevin go away. No one likes you or cares about.
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